Bux.to Sux - An Exposé about Bux.to

There is a lot to go over so bare with me while I go over of what is happening in the world of bux.to.

First off, I like to thank all of those who have left important info in our comment section or by e-mail. It has become a big help. For those of you who have any info regarding Bux.to can leave it in our comment section anonymously. You can do this by leaving it on any posting or you can do it here.

Now back to the business of bux.to. Bux.to mods and admin are still playing the banning and closing thread "game". As I predicted the "Personal Attack" thread was closed. I guess bux.to got tired of people chiming in and giving them a earful of what they thought about the whole ordeal.

On top of that, bux.to has been banning people for speaking what is on their minds. Of course we are talking about bux.to here. I guess telling mods and administrators that they are just as responsible for the crimes that bux.to is making, is a little too much for them to handle. The term the truth hurts comes to mind. Them locking threads and banning people for saying these things is only making it look more likely this could be even closer to the truth.

Also, dormant moderators like TaichouInkei are showing a little life in them. Seems odd that a moderator who was showing his frustrations in the staff room is now changing his tune. From the bux.to translator staff room: (Thanks to Confessions of a Flaming Baghead for the work in finding this)

TaichouInkei
10 Feb 2009, 06:06 PM

So... somebody wanna get an update on what's going on?

Not that I'm flipping flags.. but the whole thing looks pretty dead...

TaichouInkei
10 Feb 2009, 09:30 PM

But I mean, there's a point of no return and I think, at this point, it's being ever so slowly crossed into.. particularly with no sign of life coming from the heirarchy.

This is something I learned and unwillingly accepted. Now I moved on and I am having the "waiting time" as long as it takes, as long as I keep having direct contact with management.

I dunno if I could agree, business wise. I would venture to say that planning to start over with whoever's left is kind of bleak, as plans go. But then, I only know what I've been taught, I guess. Things taking as long as they take, though.. it doesn't seem like a healthy standpoint to take.

I know there's not much you can do, but I mean the uppers.

If you see me quiet, stay quiet... whenever you see me run, try to catch up.

You'll forgive me if I prefer to watch from 2 or 3 steady meters behind, instead icon_cool.gif.

A change in tune, indeed. Maybe staff are being paid again. Money makes a world of difference in the PTC World.

Which brings me to the biggest update yet. From my anonymous poster who alerted me about UrOnlineBiz review (thank you for the info).

Let me try and break their review down.

The admin of PTC Guardian published screenshots of his bux-account showing that after converting a fraction of his balance into ads he ended up getting a negative balance of $-1,078. The forum moderators and admin started shouting that that's impossible and that the PTC amin was basically lying. When PtCGuardian Produced the screenshots as proof there were accusations like "Photoshop" and "fake" etc.
2007-2009©UrOnlineBiz.com

Wow, photoshop. Who would of thought of that? And why would someone go through all of that just to make a fake photo? Bux.to, do you think people need photoshop to prove that bux.to is a scam? Once again, why is it always the member who has to prove bux.to wrong when it should be the other way around? You people haven't showed us squat! Yet when we have a problem, you guys throw your nose up at us and automatically write us off!

When the PTC Guardian admin announced that he would publish the password to his bux-account so that ANYONE could log in and see for themselves, the bux staff finally had a heads up and looked in the issue properly. It turned out the PTCGuardian was right, there was a serious mess up with his account and the cockiest bux forum moderator who had promised free ads to PTC Guardian, if she was proven wrong, had to pay for PTC Guardians ads out of her own pocket. Well that's what she claimed she would do...but surprise surprise, PTC guardian still didn't get the ads and still the account balance in negative. We will see after today if they rally live up to their promises for once. 2007-2009©UrOnlineBiz.com

Oh this is interesting. And spiderwoman thinks this is going away? It will be great to see the owner... oops....I mean spiderwoman to make due on her promises. The "cockiest" staff member now has to eat crow and deliver. Will she? Like I say, only time will tell. Spider, just don't make it a "soon" kind of thing or we will know that your word cant be take seriously. As we have learned from the past.

We sympathize with PTC Guardian. In the future we recommend not only taking screenshots when producing evidence/proof like this but to also use a video tool and create a video where you login to your account and show the balance; a great way to make the doubters shut up and to not have to listen to accusations like "photoshop" Here is a video from MYPTCSite that shows a negative balance at bux.to.
2007-2009©UrOnlineBiz.com

I know it is a shame it has come down to this. Where you have to take video clips of your accounts and your findings just to prove your point. When bux.to hasn't prove squat to us.

Recently AMC claimed my postings on this blog is "falsified". Which is a bunch of bull. I took video shots of her Azerty Money maker site as well. Because I knew sooner or later she would come down with the "falsified" excuse.


Yes, we all know that they are not planning to pay. They have no one else to blame now but themselves. They are stalling and trying to get every last cent out of new members. The are out of money. They even owe Alt3rn4tiv3 money for his services. If they can't pay him, then why would we think they could pay us?

The Line Of Accusations:

Mainly this case is about scam but Interpol also investigates the taxes and salaries of those who work for bux.to; forum administrators, moderators, support staff and so on. Some salaries have been paid but Interpol says they have reason to believe that there are also tax issues here. In other words buxto as a employer has not paid the staff's taxes accordingly to the laws and rules. 2007-2009©UrOnlineBiz.com

Oh great. The old Al Capone loop hole. Either way, they are doomed. Governments hate it when you play the "Tax Evasion" game. Everyone knows about their "office" in Dominica. The building of 1000 businesses. Mostly scams and businesses trying to escape from paying their taxes.

Even if the bux owner would pay the people who reported to Interpol, there will still be tax issues and that sort of crime is in the hands of governments. Our guess is that no matter what happens, the bux.to owner is about to have a very bad year.
2007-2009©UrOnlineBiz.com

Well done UrOnlineBiz! I can not wait to see how this all unfolds.

To bux.to...you can be rest assured, when bux.to closes shop and when the investigation is complete, I will be on the look out for the next PTC site that magically appears with the bux.to reload look and feel to it. You can bank on it. You might think you can get away with this, but sooner or later it will catch up to you, and when it does... I want you to think about all the members you have stolen from. We will be smiling and laughing at you on this day. A glorious day it will be.

A busy day on the forum for both Mods and Members. Threads were closed left and right, while members are wondering why they should even bother posting on the forum. The forum has become a poor outlet ran by a handful of mods who take part in keeping the bux.to scheming machine well oiled. By closing threads and moving them out of the public's view. By hiding them, bux.to can easily snare the next bux.to victim.

As I watch this dance unfold, members and mods battle over payments. Mods tell little or give a copy and paste answers. SPIDERWOMAN, is still singing the same song.

"Hahahahahahaha... it's just that I know what's cooking in the bux.to kitchen right now."

Today a post was posted on the forums from a PTCSITE.com, who ranks PTC sites. It was sad to see how mods treated this member, who has given nothing but praise in the past towards Bux.to.

I'm the admin of PTCSITE.com, a website dedicated to the PTC industry. We have PTC reviews, rankings, scam list, forums etc. Your website occupied No.1 position in our rankings. Please view following topics:

http://buxbb.com/index.php?showtopic=6502
http://buxbb.com/index.php?showtopic=26835

That was until today.

We received a mail today from Reg.net alerting us that our premium subscription to Bux.to was about to expire. Before renewing, we had to check the status of your website. However, we noticed that our payment has been pending since Friday, 11 Apr, 2008. A support ticket regarding this matter did not fetch a response.

We hereby request an explanation regarding the undue delay in processing our payment. We would also like to know if the payment request can be cancelled and our payments refunded.

I'd be glad to take up this issue directly with a mod or admin.

Regards,
PTCSITE.com

Bux.to Forum Members can view this topic here:

http://buxbb.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=50854&view=findpost&p=462040

Non members/Banned Members can view the screen shot:



And now for the reply from Mods:

Vpbani & TaichouInkei gave their usual response. The same song and dance about backlogs and waiting times for payouts. So I will not knock them for that since they did it in professional manner. The only two active mods and staff members that still have integrity.

Then along came a SPIDERWOMAN. To no surprise, I must say she never fails when making sarcastic remarks and rude undertones in her replies. I will let you be the judge:

Mr. Ptcsite, you can cancel the renewal of your membership. Just read the forum and get an idea, get your own opinion and take a decision by yourself. We cannot tell you "do it" or "don't". It's your money and you should know if it's convenient for you or not.

An idea, I don't think he was looking for an idea. If she actually would read before she spouts off then maybe she would have an idea about what he was asking. I believe it was an explanation for the delay and if he could receive a refund.

I can not believe Bux.to would be so rude to a paying member and who runs a PTC ranking web site. The member posted in a respectful manner and I believe they should receive a respectful reply. After all this is a potential PR and advertising moment that bux.to can not afford to lose.

PTCSITE reply: @SPIDERWOMAN:I have sent you a PM

PTCSITE 2nd reply: @SPIDERWOMAN:Have you read my PM?
I would like to talk to a mod or admin personally regarding this issue.

Yes, this is how they treat their members. Members who have paid thousands of dollars of dues and fees. Who brought bux.to to their height of success by referring family and friends. And this is how they are treated?

So we are back to the one question that mods and other bux.to members are asking. Why bother? Because members care. They will not let you get away with this. Not if they can help it. They will not sit on their hands nor will they take it bending over while bux.to continues with their scheme. You can try to silence them by closing your threads and moving them out of the public's eyes, but the truth will always prevail. Your actions or lack of actions have already proven this. You have ran out of excuses my friend, and the time has come for you to make due on what is owed to your members.

Someone once said that you can judge a country by the way they treat their people. I wonder if that goes hand in hand with the relationship of a business owner and it's customer. I am sure only time will tell, but I am pretty sure we already know the answer.