Bux.to Sux - An Exposé about Bux.to

Another organization has shown disapproval of bux.to. For us regular members, we all have seen the bux.to charities ad page in our advertisement area. Bux.to continuously reminding us that they give to charities.

Personally, I believe by doing such a deed a person or company should be humble about it. They shouldn't be using it as advertising or a marketing campaign. Especially on a site that is a scam. Charities have a hard enough time to get people to give, especially when it the term scam comes in to play.

So, like all companies that have dealings with bux.to, we contacted them and asked them if they knew about bux.to using their logos and and ads on their site. Well the response is damaging, and here is the reply and screenshot of the email we received from them.

Dear Mr. xxxx,

My name is Hugh Linnehan and I am the Corporate Partnerships Manager for SOS-Kinderdorf International, the umbrella organisation for 132 SOS Children?s Villages associations worldwide.

We received your inquiry and are particularly concerned about Bux.to and its use of our logo. We have no record whatsoever of any relationship between Bux.to and any SOS Children?s Villages association. The SOS banner used in the Charity Contributions section of Bux.to?s website http://www2.bux.to/contact.php is from many years ago, and we would not have given Bux.to this emblem.


* I tried contacting Bux.to on their customer service address (and included your name and the nature of your complaint), but the mail was returned as undeliverable because the mailbox was full. My mail was 5 kb in size.
* I am sure you have already looked at articles/blogs about this company?s reputation, and a Google search found some discouraging reports of fraud and scams. Bux.to is purportedly owned by David John Withers, who has been involved with numerous internet scams in the past.
* Through the ?Submit a new ticket? contact portal http://www.buxtosupport.com/index.php?a=add , we have asked Bux.to to immediately remove our logo and any reference to our organisation from their website and any other medium of communication.


We?ll see if these measures are successful; in the meantime, we understand and empathize with your situation, but have no relationship with Bux.to on any level. I am fairly certain the other charities named will have the same response.

Sincerely,

Hugh Linnehan

Again, bux.to caught using another company as a tool to scam others. So what did bux.to staff say, well it is obvious. Everyone is a liar, except for them. Yes, even poor Mr Hugh Linnehan reply does not seem to faze these people . Here are screen shots of bux.to's take on the whole situation.



Wow, so like I said, I guess everyone is a liar except bux.to. And do you see the response from AMC? A forum moderator would know the full name and details of the person who contacted this charity? I know you two are shacking up, but why would a moderator be gaining that info from a private email from a charitable organization? Then on top of that throwing threats around. Just in case you didn't catch what the bully said:

I know full name of who did this in an attempt to defame and spread libel. It is one of Chrissie's group.
One more of such a stunt chirissie and that will be your last on this forum and I can't tell if your bux.to account would not be affected.
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Guess what? This person was paid today! Wow, another person paid after they have gone after bux.to. Anyone see a pattern here? Maxx/Intenze, Chrissy, and now this person.



Way to go! And we will continue to contact anyone and everyone that bux.to uses as a vessel to scam would be victims. AMC if you think we are committing "Libel or Slander" by contacting these companies, THINK AGAIN my dear. Know what you are talking about before you speak. We have every right to warn and contact those affected. It is our right, and you can not stop us.

A message to everyone, please be sure to report bux.to at ever venue possible. In your own country, on the web, or the companies that bux.to deals with and uses. Here are a few places to report bux.to. I would suggest you make a email/letter and send it to these places. I will continue to add links at the bottom of this entry as links come available.

This just in, looks like Payoneer is cutting all their ties with bux.to. We received confrimation from Payoneer that they no longer will be doing business with bux.to

Payoneer seems to be fed up with bux.to for using the Payoneer card to promote Bux.to. For weeks many members have been outraged about bux.to and their yourbuxcard.com - Marketing Staff, pushing the card on all member to buy and purchase this card for 49.95. A card that is provided free of charge by payoneer. I am sure after many complaints payoneer was not happy about their company and services being used as a vessel to scam the general public. Here is what a member was just told by Payoneer staff just moments ago.

Well, well, well...what do we have here? This just gets better and better every day! Bux.to has turned into a international Soap Opera sensation. I have been busy and away from the "drama" at bux.to. So I check in from time to time, to see if anything changed. Of course, nothing has. Only the same old lies coming from that place.

I did find something quite amusing. As everyone knows there is a Mod on bux.to, by the name of "AMC" who desires attention from time to time. Like you would do to anyone who throws fits and tantrums, she is ignored and laughed at on several occasions. She is even the "butt of a joke" on a PRIVATE forum. A forum that she is so desperately obssessed with. All of this is very amusing to watch.

For instance, a couple of days ago a member started a thread to show people on the forum how many people have joined the other PRIVATE forum, known as the "Bagheads" forum. Of course AMC runs to it and points out that some member names are not the same and that if they are not corrected she will close the thread. Oh no!! She is going to close the thread down! ::shaking in my boots::

Also in this thread, AMC mentions she isn't really concerned about what goes on on this other forum. Only that she has been given screen shots of what is being said and done there, and she wants everyone to know that she knows everything that goes on there. LIKE WE CARE!

Let it be known that the PRIVATE forum on the Shack was made by Chrissy, Eternal and Vince (a former Bux.to Moderator) to have discussions about bux.to without the fear of being hounded and demonized by moderators and staff. you see this is what happens when you censor and piss people off. If bux.to didn't edit, delete, and close down threads they wouldn't have this problem. But no! They had to quell all of this for fear of it getting out to the public.

So back to this "Baghead List", I was going to reply today on this thread. However, AMC closed it. She does her little song and dance with Spiderwoman and acts like it is some kind of game. Yes a bunch of grown women playing games with people and their money. Sickening, isn't it?!

So since I am unable to post there, I will post it here. I think I like it better here anyways, since all eyes can see it.

Dear AMC,

Yes, we know we have people within our own forum under your thumb. And? Your point is? What concern is it to you? You keep saying you don't care...however you keep bringing it up. Obsessed much? We know you are obsessed with "Our little group". I for one could care less if you knew. The point of the "Shack" is to express ourselves freely without bux.to and their little Nazis coming around and deleting and censoring what we say. I think it is hilarious that you are now able to read what we say about you. And if I could I would say it now. But we all know what would happen to it once it is said.

However, I wouldn't doubt that those screen shots came from Alt3rna4tiv3. You know the one who admitted to hacking in to the Shacks forum and using another users name, who had nothing to do with this? I am pretty much sure that is a illegal act. An act which bux.to is associated with. Oh, and I have screen shots of that conversation where he admitted in doing this. Since you talk about screen shots.

Bux.to isn't concerned about it but they get someone to hack in to a user name and use their account to browse a private forum. Does that sound like a person who doesn't care?

You can throw around all the threats in the world. Nothing but hot air. Nothing but talk from you. I would love for you to file a claim against me. Please, reveal who you are. You think you have lawyers at your dispose? You haven't seen nothing. I want to see how you and bux.to are going to explain yourselves for what you have done. An employee from a company who is committing fraud and stealing money is going to file a suit against me? A scammer is going to sue me? Please, don't make me laugh.

See you in court my dear. Hope you have fun in Indianapolis.

And that is what I was going to post before the topic was locked. Previously AMC has been barking at other members stating that we are slandering and defaming bux.to and their staff. And what are they doing to us? Scamming us? Stealing from us? This is bux.to's Hypocrisy. When members are treated unfairly we are suppose to shut up and take it. However when the same in return is dealt, they can not handle it!

Bux.to, you have stolen, ridiculed us, and underestimated us. Bad move on your part. You want to file a claim against us? Do it! Stop wasting our time with all of your bull shit. You know you don't have a leg to stand on if you try and pursue this. Come on, show us who you are. Show us who the owner is, show us your real names. A company that is being investigated by Interpol and who is violating tax laws thinks they are victims of slander? Someone needs to go back to Law School or bux.to needs to find a new "legal department".

For those who don't know in order to file or make such a claim, they need to do it where it took place. Well, bux.to. You have your work cut out for you, because your so called "slander" claim is all over the internet from thousands of members. You can't even pay your members!

Also it is the Plaintiff who has to prove slander occurred, not the defendant.
Even if a statement is derogatory, there are circumstances in which such statements are permissible in law. Note that, due to the burden of proof, it is not initially the defendant's duty to prove these defenses; rather, it is the plaintiff's duty to prove that the defenses are invalid (i.e. the defendant does not need to prove that the statements are true; the plaintiff must prove that they are false).

Question: What defenses may be available to someone who is sued for defamation?

Answer: There are ordinarily 6 possible defenses available to a defendant who is sued for libel (published defamatory communication.)
1. Truth. This is a complete defense, but may be difficult to prove.
2. Fair comment on a matter of public interest. This defense applies to "opinion" only, as compared to a statement of fact. The defendant usually needs to prove that the opinion is honestly held and the comments were not motivated by actual "malice." ( Malice means knowledge of falsity or reckless disregard for the truth of falsity of the defamatory statement.)
3. Privilege. The privilege may be absolute or qualified. Privilege generally exists where the speaker or writer has a duty to communicate to a specific person or persons on a given occasion. In some cases the privilege is qualified and may be lost if the publication is unnecessarily wide or made with malice.
4. Consent. This is rarely available, as plaintiffs will not ordinarily agree to the publication of statements that they find offensive.
5. Innocent dissemination. In some caes a party who has no knowledge of the content of a defamatory statement may use this defense. For example, a mailman who delivers a sealed envelope containing a defamatory statement, is not legally liable for any damages that come about from the statement.
6. Plaintiff's poor reputation. Defendant can mitigate (lessen) damages for a defamatory statement by proving that the plaintiff did not have a good reputation to begin with. Defendant ordinarily can prove plaintiff's poor reputation by calling witnesses with knowledge of the plaintiff's prior reputation relating to the defamatory content.

Need I say more? How about if person's character has already been in question or tarnished. I am sure Spiderwoman's history on the internet will come into play. Her lying about her other blogs and blaming it on another. Then it was later found that the same vulgarisms was found on another forum. Which after it was exposed she went in there and changed her account, no worries we have screen shots of that too.

Or how about this one,

Bux.to and their staff have been in denial about the ads being shown on their site. Concerns were raised by members who noticed bux.to's ads were fake if not self-promoting bux.to. When a member stated this is"Very interesting information, this confirms a lot of what is going on here." Bux.to's Administrator, Spiderwoman's replied, and I quote "That's an OPINION, not an information... "

Oh my! Links, HTML codes, and screen shots were shown and her reply is "That's an Opinion"? An obvious reply from a person who doesn't know what they are talking about.

For those of you that don't have a clue to what I am talking about, I will break it down for you. Bux.to is a PTC site that pays you for every ad you click. Hence "Paid To Click" In order to pay you they have to have advertisers to show their ads. No ads, means no money to be made. Over the past year bux.to's site has been in the slumps. Few ads, Refs dieing, and no payments were being made. All the sudden within the past few months ads and refs come back to life. So out of curiosity I and many other members are investigating why these ads and refs are coming back to life.

For premium membership you can view and click 35-50 ads a day. Sounds great, right? Well to the average Joe who doesn't have a clue to where these ads are coming from, it does. I mean, 45 ads?!! You can't beat that!

Now, everyone is all hyped up about the ads, so in return they are going to purchase refs. Sounds like a good plan to me. Hold on! Before you do that, you might want to think about what is the end result, because it can be a stinker. Yes, you may gain some clicks and extra numbers from all of these ads, but will bux.to be able to pay you for all of your hard work? They should, right? If they are receiving commissions from these for ads that they sell everyday. Right?

Ha! Bux.to has us for suckers. What ads? 90% of bux.to's ads are self-promotional ads. What does that mean? It means bux.to is showing you ads from within the company and not from outside advertisers. Uh oh...so how are they going to pay you if they are not bringing in any advertisers? Well most of their ads are from ClickBank ads. Bux.to has a account with them, however it requires you to purchase and click on these ads for bux.to to make any kind of profit from it.

There is a old saying "Don't count your chickens before they hatch", and I believe this is what bux.to is doing when it comes to them showing their self-sponsored ads. They are counting on receiving these earnings from these ClickBank ads to pay their members. Which explains why payments are so far behind now. Don't believe me? Well, I though some of you might say that, so I took the time and effort to view every ad and to view every ad's links and HTML coding. While doing this I took screen shots of every ad. Yes, that's right, I am going to show you what a bux.to member sees everyday when they click their ads.

Also, I took the liberty of joining ClickBank to see how it works. Basically during sign up you choose a "Nickname" or what some may call a user name. For instance if I chose a nickname of "buxtosux" this is how my clickbank link would look like.

http://buxtosux.fapturbo.hop.clickbank.net <----Remember this when you look at these screenshots.