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Lie To Me...
Monday, April 13, 2009Posted by
Bux.to Sux!!
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Previously me and some other members have done some researching on bux.to's so called "Success Stories" that is posted on their front page. Since none of these success stories can be found on the forum, we all knew something wasn't quite right with these stories.
The one that I found to be the most despicable was the PeteSussex.com success story. This person's success story had links at the bottom of their entry. One of these links are to this site www.PeteSussex.com. If you do a Whois on this site you will see that it is a bux.to owned site, that is being used to lure in new members and giving them the impression the bux.to is paying.
Following this ad, bux.to announced that they will be offering the bux.to card to everyone. Standard and Premiums. Of course there is a fee involved.
In the card's announcement they gave a link where you can sign up for the card. Which miraculously the link/site is not working at this time. It could be a site issue, or maybe it was due to all the questioning from members on the forum. We shall see, if that is the case.
When you do a whois on the www.YourBuxCard.com and PeteSussex.com <--(the link from the success story) the info that comes up is very interesting. True, that a lot of it is blocked and has a guard on it, but you still can see that these two sites are linked. Here is the sites side by side:
Notice the dates. Both created only days apart. And same registration service. Now look at this next screen shot of a Trace Route. This time bux.to and Petesussex.com
Is all of this just coincidental? Maybe, but I would highly doubt it since bux.to has used up all of the "it's just a coincidence" cards. Also, these so called coincidences are popping up more and more everyday.
Still not convinced? Another discovery was made today. Of course, staff was quick to run to it and respond by saying it was just another theory and it is all made up.
On another site ( http://www.robtex.com ) you search for yourbuxcard.com and you get these results: http://www.robtex.com/dns/yourbuxcard.com.html
Anything look familiar? Look at the gmail address. djw sales? David John Withers perhaps? Another coincidence? Do I dare say what the staff at bux.to say? Let me show you what they are saying about this.
It contains false information? You mean like the false advertisements on the front page of bux.to? Or even better, how about the fake success stories? There is nothing falsified on http://www.robtex.com. Lets stop with the lies and cover ups. You know damn well what those letters stand for! After all, the person who brought up the name David John Withers is the same person you persecuted for bringing that info to our attention. And what do you do? You go and sign up as a member on his PTC site!! The same person that you were defending bux.to from! Please...don't make me laugh.
The only domain that wont load is bux.to's pathetic web page for the card. You know, the scheme to get bux.to members to send in their hard earned cash. The same one that bux.to staff was spamming the board with? If there ever was anything that didn't belong on the forum it should have been those posts. Seems like bux.to can't follow their own TOS, in the forum or on their main site. And don't lie, it was a staff member that was spamming the forum to sign up for the card. We all know it. When we reported it, our post was deleted.
LMAO!! Oh God!... Please, that was too funny. The initials are DJW, not DJWS! Domain Joint Worldwide Sales? That isn't even in Google search! However, David John Withers is!
Spider you can try and dodge this all you want. But it is only making you look like a bigger fool than what you are now. Stop now. You are digging yourself a deeper grave by all of this foolishness.
I could go on and post their other replies, but ther is nothing to post. Staff change the subject and then quickly point to their beloved TOS (which they can't even follow) and say for everyone to contact them via PM if they have a problem. Which means...they don't want everyone to see this. They want this all behind doors and away from new members eyes.
If you don't think bux.to is a scam by now, then I don't know what to tell you. I will continue to keep tabs on bux.to until the law catches up to them, or till they pay EVERYONE. New and old. But, that will never happen.
Belive it or not, there are members out there that will defend bux.to, even now. Take this person's post:
Since the thread was locked, I will respond here.
NKH, why are we here? It is simple. We are there to warn other members. If you don't like it, don't read it! We have paid our dues just like you did. Meaning both you and I paid for this bandwidth with our premium dues and purchases. We have just as the same right as you do. You might not like it, and you can call us crybabies and so forth. I am sure some of us "crybabies" have a few choiced words and names to call you. However, I will not stoop to that level. Because I know, you have just as much right to express how you feel as I do.
Members like NKH are now frustrated because they don't understand why so many of us are upset with bux.to. They don't know half of what we know, and they are mislead and lied to constantly.
Nowdays when I sign in on bux.to, I see the signs of lies everywhere. From their home pages, to their ads, our refs, the bux.to card, and to the forum. Bux.to is nothing more than a great big LIE. Stay tuned for your next episode of "Lie To Me" brought to you by bux.to....
The only domain that wont load is bux.to's pathetic web page for the card. You know, the scheme to get bux.to members to send in their hard earned cash. The same one that bux.to staff was spamming the board with? If there ever was anything that didn't belong on the forum it should have been those posts. Seems like bux.to can't follow their own TOS, in the forum or on their main site. And don't lie, it was a staff member that was spamming the forum to sign up for the card. We all know it. When we reported it, our post was deleted.
Spider you can try and dodge this all you want. But it is only making you look like a bigger fool than what you are now. Stop now. You are digging yourself a deeper grave by all of this foolishness.
I could go on and post their other replies, but ther is nothing to post. Staff change the subject and then quickly point to their beloved TOS (which they can't even follow) and say for everyone to contact them via PM if they have a problem. Which means...they don't want everyone to see this. They want this all behind doors and away from new members eyes.
If you don't think bux.to is a scam by now, then I don't know what to tell you. I will continue to keep tabs on bux.to until the law catches up to them, or till they pay EVERYONE. New and old. But, that will never happen.
Belive it or not, there are members out there that will defend bux.to, even now. Take this person's post:
Since the thread was locked, I will respond here.
NKH, why are we here? It is simple. We are there to warn other members. If you don't like it, don't read it! We have paid our dues just like you did. Meaning both you and I paid for this bandwidth with our premium dues and purchases. We have just as the same right as you do. You might not like it, and you can call us crybabies and so forth. I am sure some of us "crybabies" have a few choiced words and names to call you. However, I will not stoop to that level. Because I know, you have just as much right to express how you feel as I do.
Members like NKH are now frustrated because they don't understand why so many of us are upset with bux.to. They don't know half of what we know, and they are mislead and lied to constantly.
Nowdays when I sign in on bux.to, I see the signs of lies everywhere. From their home pages, to their ads, our refs, the bux.to card, and to the forum. Bux.to is nothing more than a great big LIE. Stay tuned for your next episode of "Lie To Me" brought to you by bux.to....
Interpol Is Coming For YOU...
Tuesday, March 24, 2009Posted by
Bux.to Sux!!
First off, I like to thank all of those who have left important info in our comment section or by e-mail. It has become a big help. For those of you who have any info regarding Bux.to can leave it in our comment section anonymously. You can do this by leaving it on any posting or you can do it here.
Now back to the business of bux.to. Bux.to mods and admin are still playing the banning and closing thread "game". As I predicted the "Personal Attack" thread was closed. I guess bux.to got tired of people chiming in and giving them a earful of what they thought about the whole ordeal.
On top of that, bux.to has been banning people for speaking what is on their minds. Of course we are talking about bux.to here. I guess telling mods and administrators that they are just as responsible for the crimes that bux.to is making, is a little too much for them to handle. The term the truth hurts comes to mind. Them locking threads and banning people for saying these things is only making it look more likely this could be even closer to the truth.
Also, dormant moderators like TaichouInkei are showing a little life in them. Seems odd that a moderator who was showing his frustrations in the staff room is now changing his tune. From the bux.to translator staff room: (Thanks to Confessions of a Flaming Baghead for the work in finding this)
TaichouInkei
10 Feb 2009, 06:06 PM
So... somebody wanna get an update on what's going on?
Not that I'm flipping flags.. but the whole thing looks pretty dead...
TaichouInkei
10 Feb 2009, 09:30 PM
But I mean, there's a point of no return and I think, at this point, it's being ever so slowly crossed into.. particularly with no sign of life coming from the heirarchy.
This is something I learned and unwillingly accepted. Now I moved on and I am having the "waiting time" as long as it takes, as long as I keep having direct contact with management.
I dunno if I could agree, business wise. I would venture to say that planning to start over with whoever's left is kind of bleak, as plans go. But then, I only know what I've been taught, I guess. Things taking as long as they take, though.. it doesn't seem like a healthy standpoint to take.
I know there's not much you can do, but I mean the uppers.
If you see me quiet, stay quiet... whenever you see me run, try to catch up.
You'll forgive me if I prefer to watch from 2 or 3 steady meters behind, instead icon_cool.gif.
A change in tune, indeed. Maybe staff are being paid again. Money makes a world of difference in the PTC World.
Which brings me to the biggest update yet. From my anonymous poster who alerted me about UrOnlineBiz review (thank you for the info).
Let me try and break their review down.
The admin of PTC Guardian published screenshots of his bux-account showing that after converting a fraction of his balance into ads he ended up getting a negative balance of $-1,078. The forum moderators and admin started shouting that that's impossible and that the PTC amin was basically lying. When PtCGuardian Produced the screenshots as proof there were accusations like "Photoshop" and "fake" etc.
2007-2009©UrOnlineBiz.com
Wow, photoshop. Who would of thought of that? And why would someone go through all of that just to make a fake photo? Bux.to, do you think people need photoshop to prove that bux.to is a scam? Once again, why is it always the member who has to prove bux.to wrong when it should be the other way around? You people haven't showed us squat! Yet when we have a problem, you guys throw your nose up at us and automatically write us off!
When the PTC Guardian admin announced that he would publish the password to his bux-account so that ANYONE could log in and see for themselves, the bux staff finally had a heads up and looked in the issue properly. It turned out the PTCGuardian was right, there was a serious mess up with his account and the cockiest bux forum moderator who had promised free ads to PTC Guardian, if she was proven wrong, had to pay for PTC Guardians ads out of her own pocket. Well that's what she claimed she would do...but surprise surprise, PTC guardian still didn't get the ads and still the account balance in negative. We will see after today if they rally live up to their promises for once. 2007-2009©UrOnlineBiz.com
We sympathize with PTC Guardian. In the future we recommend not only taking screenshots when producing evidence/proof like this but to also use a video tool and create a video where you login to your account and show the balance; a great way to make the doubters shut up and to not have to listen to accusations like "photoshop" Here is a video from MYPTCSite that shows a negative balance at bux.to.
2007-2009©UrOnlineBiz.com
I know it is a shame it has come down to this. Where you have to take video clips of your accounts and your findings just to prove your point. When bux.to hasn't prove squat to us.Recently AMC claimed my postings on this blog is "falsified". Which is a bunch of bull. I took video shots of her Azerty Money maker site as well. Because I knew sooner or later she would come down with the "falsified" excuse.
Here is one of the clips. Enjoy
Interpol was notified of bux.to actions over a month ago and even though it will take time at least we know that bux.to is under investigation. Reporting to Interpol hand nothing to do with the case of PTC Guardian but with the fact that thousands of members has not been paid and lost loads of money. In fact it was not even PTC Guardian who reported bux.to to Interpol, it was staff from MYPTCSite.com.Interesting. Strange that Spiderwoman has been moving around all the sudden. And "unexpectedly" as she has said in the past.
MyPTCSite staff believe that they will never get paid what they have in their bux to accounts so basically they have nothing to lose by reporting, but it will most likely be a very interesting reading when justice is finally brought to the members who never got paid.
Interpol is being very quiet about the details around bux.to but it seems that bux at one point registered a "mail-box-company" in the west indies to transfer their money there. Later on the money hs been moved around and spread out in bank accounts and payment processors. The names Debbie and George who has appeared as the people behind bux to are fake and the real identity of the person behind bux (Interpol claims that there is one European main character in this farse that will probably have to take the full responsibility and end up in a court of law) will be announced when this case is brought to court. 2007-2009©UrOnlineBiz.com
The MyPTCSite staff says: "Well, Interpol won't tell us anything directly but during the questioning they have asked us about a person that we never heard of before so it was easy to figure out that they were talking about the real person behind Bux.to. It feels great that they have real name now, it brings hope that bux.to will finally have to face the consequences of their actions. This will be brought to a European Union court since involves members from different countries and also because the owner of bux.to has spread the money all over the world, it seems. Otherwise we could just have reported to the police in the country where bux owner resides but this is a bit more complicated." 2007-2009©UrOnlineBiz.comAnd there you have it. A ponzi scheme. Doesn't get anymore cut and dry as that.
To the question what the MYPTCSite staff hope to get out of this reply: "We just wanted to get paid in the first place, but we have come to the conclusion that is not an option...so after 5 months of discussion we finally got around to report them properly. Now that ball is already rolling the only way the bux.to owner can get away with it is if he pays what he owes people...but we all know that is not going to happen."
2007-2009©UrOnlineBiz.com
Yes, we all know that they are not planning to pay. They have no one else to blame now but themselves. They are stalling and trying to get every last cent out of new members. The are out of money. They even owe Alt3rn4tiv3 money for his services. If they can't pay him, then why would we think they could pay us?
The Line Of Accusations:Oh great. The old Al Capone loop hole. Either way, they are doomed. Governments hate it when you play the "Tax Evasion" game. Everyone knows about their "office" in Dominica. The building of 1000 businesses. Mostly scams and businesses trying to escape from paying their taxes.
Mainly this case is about scam but Interpol also investigates the taxes and salaries of those who work for bux.to; forum administrators, moderators, support staff and so on. Some salaries have been paid but Interpol says they have reason to believe that there are also tax issues here. In other words buxto as a employer has not paid the staff's taxes accordingly to the laws and rules. 2007-2009©UrOnlineBiz.com
Even if the bux owner would pay the people who reported to Interpol, there will still be tax issues and that sort of crime is in the hands of governments. Our guess is that no matter what happens, the bux.to owner is about to have a very bad year.Well done UrOnlineBiz! I can not wait to see how this all unfolds.
2007-2009©UrOnlineBiz.com
To bux.to...you can be rest assured, when bux.to closes shop and when the investigation is complete, I will be on the look out for the next PTC site that magically appears with the bux.to reload look and feel to it. You can bank on it. You might think you can get away with this, but sooner or later it will catch up to you, and when it does... I want you to think about all the members you have stolen from. We will be smiling and laughing at you on this day. A glorious day it will be.
Forum Updates at Bux.to - Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum
Monday, February 16, 2009Posted by
Bux.to Sux!!
(aka : AMC & SPIDERWOMAN) are closing threads created by members due to negative comments about bux.to. God forbid if you express your feelings about bux.to on this forum. After all members have been waiting over a year for payouts. What did you expect?
So I feel I have no option but to post what these mods are doing on this forum.
From Bux.to paying member: you and I are one. we both invested, yet we are here looking like sitting ducks on a murky pond. waiting to be slaughtered.
Reply from SPIDERWOMAN (Administrator)This is really offending other members. Got it reported 4 times.
The message changed from saying in a very decent way that you thought people should beware to blatant accusations and putting other kind of message in. The bandwidth paid by bux.to is not your personal plattform to accuse bux.to of things they are not.
Thread closed. To open another one or complain about this one being closed will end up in banning you from the forum with NO RETURN.
I hate to tell her this, but it was bux.to members who paid for the bandwidth not bux.to. Bux.to members should have every right to use the forum to express them selves as the above member did.
SPIDERWOMAN, sometimes comes off as a drama queen. To say that she has received complaints about this member's post is totally ridiculous if not fabricated.
Bux.to forum members can read this thread here:
http://buxbb.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=50424&view=findpost&p=461749/
For banned and non members view screen shot image:
Also, a notice was posted about members posting and that all negative comments will be deleted:
From AMC (MOD) It is appreciated by the members posting their success stories if their threads would not be hijacked by members to post unrelated comments.
It is a little effort to show the common decency to respect the thread starters. They have nothing to do with any of your payments or other problems.
The forum Feedback - Tell us how you feel is there for you, to tell how you feel about no matter what.
Please use it. Thank you.
Starting today we will delete all complaints and other unrelated posts in threads on this forum.
SPIDERWOMAN (Administrator) Reply Thanks for this post... I support this 100%.
No surprise there. And of course paying members can not reply or have a say on this. For those who don't know the Suggestion and Feedback section is not viewable to the public. Unlike some areas of the forum. Like the Success Stories.
A few days ago a member posted a success story stating he/she was paid. However the dates did not match up. So members questioned this and of course bux.to and its staff were not pleased with the questions. Another tactic to silence members. Also, shortly after the bux.to main web site on the front page displayed this post. Just shows how desperate they are to show that the are actually paying its members. When in fact they know they are not. As of today the latest proof of payout was last updated on January 26, 2009. Of course these could easily be fabricated as well.
Bux.to Forum Members can view this thread here:
http://buxbb.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=50805&view=findpost&p=461678/
Non and banned members can view screen shots:
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